About the project

Initial development of Providence Manor began in 1986. The agreement with Butler County was that the HOA would manage the storm water drainage sewer pipes located outside the street right of ways, or about 5 feet past the curb. All HOA agreements with the County both then and now are stated and executed in this manner. This is the largest capital asset for the HOA requiring us to have a reserve for maintenance. The Board has undertaken the continuing project to update our information on the condition of this piping system. This project will be conducted in phases as reserve money becomes available and will include determination of which sections of pipe will need to be repaired, vendor selection for repairs, and eventually completion of the repair work.

Background

Our subdivision streets are up to 38 years old in 2024 depending on your street. The pipes on HOA property running from streets connecting with Wethersfield from the Basin on Park Ridge to Walnut Creek and Walnut Creek from Hamilton-Mason to past Overland Park are primarily corrugated metal pipes with a 20-30-year lifespan. If the foundation is firm, tree roots haven’t encroached, etc. they could function well closer to 40 years. The Township and County have already replaced some pipes along Wethersfield and other areas. The HOA is responsible for close to 4000LF of pipe from 12 inch to 36 inch diameter in these areas.

Coordination & Financial Responsibility

Both financial and coordination of contractors is handled by the Providence Manor HOA Board. Expenses for the project will come from the HOA’s Capital Reserves fund.

Phases

For this project, we have split the neighborhood into sections to handle this project in phases.

PMHOA pipe
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Includes West Hartford Court, upper Wethersfield Drive (from near West Hartford Court to Walnut Creek Drive), upper Walnut Creek Drive (from Hamilton Mason Road to just past Overland Park Ct), and Overland Park Court.

Status

Update October 10, 2024: The HOA is responsible to maintain 13 pipes in this area. Nine (2074LF) were completed in 2024. Three (509 LF) will be considered for the next chunk of work and one (180 LF) will be revisited in a later phase as it is a newer pipe.

Includes the basin on Park Ridge Ct and Wethersfield Dr, Park Ridge Ct, Wethersfield Dr, Westsand Ct, Desert Springs Ct.

Status

Update October 10, 2024: The HOA is responsible to maintain 8 pipes and the township is responsible for 2 pipes. We jointly maintain 2 pipes with no immediate work required. Four pipes (457 LF) are identified for the next chunk of work. Future phases will include an additional four pipes (613 LF) plus our part of the township work when it is required.

Includes middle Walnut Creek Drive (from Wheatland Meadow Court to near Barkwood Drive), Wheatland Meadow Court, Ridge Meadow Court, and Barkwood Drive (Only PMHOA homes on Barkwood Drive).

Status

Update October 10, 2024: An inspection will need to be done to determine how many of the pipes in this phase are actually CMP pipe vs. Poly pipe. This inspection should be completed in the next 5 years.

Includes lower Walnut Creek Drive (from Barkwood Drive to near Senour Drive), Kingsfjord Court, Traverse Court, Senour Drive (Only PMHOA homes on Senour Drive), and Walnut Creek Court.

Status

Update October 10, 2024: We expect that most, if not all pipe is poly pipe. This should be confirmed and marked on the construction drawings in the next 5 years. 

Process

The next chunk of work will be prioritized and ready to execute the contract process when the reserve is built up to cover the costs of several pipes.  

Timeline

In the next 5 years the next chunk of work will be finalized based on funds available and bids for the work. This process will repeat until all the CMP pipes have been relined.

Frequently Asked Questions

The good news is that if there are no pipe failures requiring trenching (we are not anticipating any) the ground between catch basins should not be disturbed. The only exception is that in some pipes there are laterals from sump pumps entering the pipe. That may require some digging to reline the pipe and reconnect the sump. Additionally, some kind of vehicle will probably need access to any backyard catch basin through the easement on adjoining properties. We will have to work with affected homeowners who have planted trees or put fences up in the easements to minimize any additional costs. Restoration of grassy areas where the equipment is working or traveling is expected. The majority of the work will occur at the street catch basin. The contractor will have had lots of experience working in neighborhoods.

There may be some temporary relocation required to allow vehicle access. Specifics will be worked on an individual basis as construction planning begins.

For the most part, no. We would like to know any specific needs you want us to be aware of (like a dog outside). There are two potential reasons for access:

  • Contractor access for bidding the project and also when they will do construction planning. In this case we will set up a day or days for the contractor to walk the pipelines to determine the best way to bid and then to execute the project. You will be informed via TownSq of the days to expect someone to access the yard. In most situations they will only be there a short period of time to verify site conditions.
  • Contractor access for relining pipes. We expect to communicate specific dates to expect the work to be done well prior to the actual dates. When they are on the street doing the work we can’t stop progress or it will delay the project and potentially impact cost. Up to date communications to the HOA will be given on TownSq. Affected homeowners will have a specific group on TownSq to communicate specific information. Please sign up for TownSq!!

A link will be provided in the future showing the method for our project. You can also search for to get an idea of the process in general.

Please refer to the following document: Clarification of Private Drainage Easement and Maintenance

Questions can be asked in TownSq by creating a request. See our TownSq page for information about how to login, and look for the section at the bottom of the page titled: “Ask Questions, Share Concerns or Suggestions, Submit Architectural Applications, and more” to learn how to submit your question.

Communication & Updates

A group has been created in TownSq which includes all affected homeowners. We will post timely updates to that group and post general updates to the entire community periodically. Homeowners wishing to stay informed should sign up for TownSq. Learn more about Townsq and how to sign up.